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Episode 117 Live: Shetland, Lava Love, Carlotta’s Stones & Crepe Yarn

Thank you for joining me this week. Welcome to new and returning viewers. I appreciate your time spent with me. Welcome to new and old patrons of the show – you guys keep us on the air month-after-month! This week, I share some spinning and fibre preparation that people have been working on for the most recent Breed & Colour Studies – Carlotta’s Stones. I’m so pleased to see these new spins from our community. I share an ongoing, large project that I’ve been working on for a while. I’ve mentioned it on the podcast before but I’ve been sampling the yarn on my Zoom Loom. I share a new spin that I’m working on for socks. And lastly, we get into the nitty-gritty of crepe yarn in our Spinning Growth section. Enjoy!

Announcements

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Breed & Colour Studies

Works in Progress

CraftyJaks Panda – Lava Love

Finished Objects

Disdero Ranch Shetland – bump

Spinning Growth

Ianelay says:

I tend to spin by feel: Does it feel twisted enough? Does it look plied enough? then I count off treadles/drafts for consistency. It does mean I tend to underply, as yarns relax after bathing.

I was aiming for high-twist yarn, for increased durability. Rachel had described her high-twist 2-ply sock yarn in the Down issue of Ply, so I tried to follow those numbers and spun the singles at 11 TPI.

Rachel’s ply twist was 8 TPI. That meant my 2-ply needed to be 16 TPI, to balance out a final crepe ply of 8 TPI. But this felt super super twisted, and the ply-back test was also over-twisted. The treadling was so much more than I’d done for other yarns, even when taking the doubled twist into consideration. I ended up distrusting the math and going by feel, lowering the twist to 12 TPI. The ply-back made a nicer cabled structure at that twist. The final crepe ply was around 6 TPI.

The singles do look very twisted and distinct in the structure, and there must still be a lot of twist energy causing those little kinks and curls here and there. The 2-ply strands are almost parallel with each other, and the crepe ply looks like it could be a touch tighter. I think I should have trusted the math.

Questions:

Are there tricks to figuring out a crepe yarn?

In general, is there a good formula for figuring out twist in the singles vs. the plied yarn, so that the final yarn is balanced? For example, Rachel’s ply twist was about 2/3 of her singles twist. This high twist isn’t tolerated by some fibres, so it would be handy to know what to aim for.

Would that final twist also be influenced by whether the yarn is 2-ply vs 3-ply, or the actual ply structure of the yarn?

Spinning each colour separately, will ply all 3 together.

Staple length: looks like about 3.5”

Try a crepe yarn as it’s supposed to be more durable than opposing ply or traditional 3-ply: http://knitty.com/ISSUEss16/KSFEATss16KS.php

Singles: 3-4 treadles per 2” draft on 2nd smallest (12.7:1) whorl for 11 TPI. (OR 2-3 treadles per 2” draft on 17.5:1 whorl)

Burgundy: Clockwise

Grey and green: counter-clockwise

2-ply: grey and green, in clockwise direction. 16-18 treadles per 15” plying draft on 17.5:1 whorl. Ply-back makes a nice cable. Grey Suffolk was plied at 7-8 treadles so this should be enough.
I was aiming for final ply twist of 8 TPI, so need 16 TPI. That calculates at 27 treadles per 15” plying draft on 17.5:1 whorl (2 treadles per full turn of wheel). That felt over twisted– even 20 treadles felt over twisted and did not ply back nicely.

Ply CCW with burgundy single. 9-10 treadles per plying draft on 17.5:1 whorl. Plying twist doesn’t seem that high but yarn still seems over-twisted and the 2-ply seems untwisted in areas.

Defining a crepe yarn (from KnittySpin, by Jillian Moreno: http://knitty.com/ISSUEss16/KSFEATss16KS.php):

A basic crepe yarn is a 3-ply yarn made with a 2-ply and a singles. The 2-ply is spun Z in the singles and over plied S. The single is spun S with enough twist to make a regular balanced ply and plied Z with the original 2-ply. The yarn looks bubbly when it’s finished. The single traps the 2-ply which pushes out between the singles as it untwists and expands on its second ply.

Housekeeping

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